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While I have this very NYC/Montreal mindset of "What's wrong with renting the same place till the day I die?" americanstd disagrees. I am not saying he's wrong, just that he and I don't agree.

Part of this is that we usually had no meeting of the minds on what we wanted in a house we'd own. He wants Modern! and I want Traditional! In other words, he wants a new house so it can be built with wireless in the walls, top of the line electrical systems, a dishwasher, washer and dryer hookups, etc. In contrast, I want a house with personality and architectural details. So he doesn't like the 1930s Craftsmen or ancient Victorians I like and I dislike McMansions.

Enter Tumbleweed Houses and this model:

http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/houses/sebastarosa/

Since we've decided we like living small, 700 square feet is good. If we join their Small House group we get info on off-grid power and things like that.

Make sure you see the tour of the 96 square foot house--it's NUTS.

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sonria
Jan. 25th, 2010 09:58 pm (UTC)
I ♥ that site and visit there often, and I will probably build some sort of small house before my life is over.

Off grid is nice but after my own experimenting I've come to admit that I'm just not that type. I like my modern conveniences.

But there's no need to go all-out just because you're on the grid. I content myself with doing things like washing only full loads of clothing and dishes (this can be a bit of a chore if you're single), weatherstripping to increase energy efficiency, and such. If you start from scratch there's a lot more you can do to reduce your carbon footprint even if you do have to stay on the grid.
azelmaroark
Jan. 25th, 2010 10:40 pm (UTC)
At least you don't want to put thirteen children in the 400 sqft model. No, seriously. Yes, she's for real. This is one of the worst fundies I've ever seen and makes the Duggars look delightfully normal, but seeing Tumbleweed made me think of it, so I thought I'd show you. You will either find it hilarious, be forever turned off from those houses just because she likes them, or both.
reginaterrae
Jan. 25th, 2010 11:18 pm (UTC)
Wait, what? It says it's a family of 5?
azelmaroark
Jan. 25th, 2010 11:23 pm (UTC)
Yes, but she's scheming up ways to fit thirteen children in a ~400-500 sqft living space (either a tumbleweed, an apartment, trailer, etc). Because she is quiverfull and plans to have at least that many, you see. And because it's totally okay to have toddlers sleeping in the kitchen unsupervised. You know, where you keep your circular saws and antifreeze (yes, srsly).
kishiriadgr
Jan. 25th, 2010 11:56 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah, and her kid was just hospitalized for symptoms that look as if he drank antifreeze. Emily says that they tested and ruled that out, but I have my doubts. They currently have three kids.

If you're not hip to the Free Jinger forum, you should be. Their forum is called Quiverful of Snark. I posted about it earlier; desert_vixen eats up that kind of stuff. (Azelma, you might want to friend her too if you haven't already; she is down with the cinchntouch as well.)

We want 700 square feet and three bedrooms. We don't have kids and probably never will, but I do have this LIBRARY....

Edited at 2010-01-25 11:56 pm (UTC)
azelmaroark
Feb. 1st, 2010 02:33 pm (UTC)
Here is a mirror of her blog if you don't want to financially support her lunacy through clicking. She actually made OVER 1K on the blog alone (without Dan's income) this month, and that kind of opened my eyes to the fact that she will not take care of her children even if she made 10K/month. I had previously been clicking partly TO feed her children, but I'm done doing that now. She doesn't need money. She needs sense, and you can't put a price on that.

I will definitely check out Desert Vixen! And but of course, I looove me some FreeJ. (Can we free Joy Anna, Jill and Jessa, too, tho? I love those Duggars. They're probably my favorites. Poor Jill has a sensitive soul and can't handle their bullshit.)
reginaterrae
Jan. 25th, 2010 11:19 pm (UTC)
I love, love, love and covet the Tumbleweed houses.
kwokj
Jan. 26th, 2010 12:55 am (UTC)
I love those little houses, too.

However, funny that AmStnd thinks you need a new house for the house to be wired, hooked up to everything, etc. The only people I know who did that put it in an old house (my neighbourhood, so 1930 to 1950 build.)
kishiriadgr
Jan. 26th, 2010 01:43 am (UTC)
We could do that if we *bought* an old house, but for the price we might as well build and not have to worry about the other problems that usually accompany old buildings like bad plumbing, dry rot, termites, etc. Plus I'm very fussy about my kitchen and would like to build it to order.
kwokj
Jan. 26th, 2010 01:51 am (UTC)
well, sounds like you two aren't so far apart on what you want in a house afterall ;)

We got a small house, too: a 750sqft bungalow. We figure if (yes, if) we have kids, we'll put on a second storey. We didn't want to buy more house than we needed, and it's cheaper to expand than move, so we looked for houses that could be expanded on.
helenkacan
Jan. 26th, 2010 01:20 am (UTC)
I thought the tiny houses made the most of the space (loved the sleeping lofts because of the secluded feeling) and used windows really well. However, one has to be limber to scamper up and down that ladder?!?

Speaking of ladders, have you considered putting books all the way up to the ceiling and having a ladder?

Anyway, thanks for the teeny travelogue included with the houses.
kishiriadgr
Jan. 26th, 2010 01:40 am (UTC)
I'm limber and ladders are still a no-go. Steve and I looked at loft beds at Ikea. They sell them in "full" size which is what we have now. We ruled them out after a moment of thought because Mei-Mei wouldn't be able to go up and down a ladder, Steve would have to keep his CPAP machine, which has a reservoir full of water, on the mattress and one of us would have to crawl over the other to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night.

As for books, we right now only have wall space for one or two bookshelves so the rest are in the storage unit behind the house. :(
zeonchar
Jan. 26th, 2010 04:20 pm (UTC)
Steph, I want to recommend you check out the "Ender's Game" series by Orson Scott Card. Book 2 starts to delve heavily into philosophy and Catholicism, which I think you might find interesting. Book 1 is a great Sci-Fi book all around; book 2, "Speaker for the Dead", is much more intellectual and a far superior book, in my opinion. Book 3 and 4 are just improvements on the first two. If you need something to read in Afghanistan, I highly recommend it! If you haven't already read the series, that is.
kishiriadgr
Jan. 26th, 2010 05:07 pm (UTC)
I've read the first. It's a good series, but I have little time to read in Afghanistan now and enough books to tie me over.
zeonchar
Jan. 26th, 2010 05:56 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the difference between the first book and the second is huge. It's like the difference between Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, as far as writing style goes. I would say Ender's Game has a great story, but primitive writing. The second book and the subsequent two really delve deep into themes of philosophy, psychology, religion, and love. Orson Scott Card has no problem breaking ethical boundaries that plague most authors because he has a Sci-Fi world to ask these questions in where anything is possible. Like, what is the gender of a soul, if any? Loving someone you are related to more than you morally should. Loving a being that is not human. With the whole space travel/aging thing going on, so much more. Seriously, if you ever get a chance in your life, check them out. It's like they were written by a different author.
megglesmcgoo
Jan. 26th, 2010 04:36 pm (UTC)
Interesting, very interesting indeed. My GC will love that site, over here it is illegal to have a bathroom off a kitchen, you have to have at least one room between. It gets people a lot in places where extra loos were put in before the regulation existed when they are trying to sell the house.
kishiriadgr
Jan. 26th, 2010 05:06 pm (UTC)
In Ontario I know it's illegal to have a bathroom off a kitchen too. Tumbleweed is in California, as are we, so I assume it's legal here--but I don't want a bathroom off a kitchen! Two adults with food intolerances + food prep = DO NOT WANT.
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