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I am amused, in a horrified sort of way, at the reaction I'm seeing towards Anders Breivik in the media. People seem to be bending over backwards to avoid calling him a terrorist. This isn't just Fox News either, I found the worst and most horrible examples on CNN. While there are certainly white Christian terrorist groups (ETA and the IRA come right to mind) the script now is that to be a terrorist one must be Muslim and preferably brown-skinned. There are now Eastern European Muslim terrorists, which created some disturbance when this fact became apparent, but Breivik has set the entire image on its ear.

I haven't checked World Net Daily since this happened but Conservapedia is going NUTS. To have someone who shares their anti-Marxist, anti-Islam, pro-white European opinions be a terrorist has destroyed their worldview completely. They're even clinging to the notion that some "liberal" went to Breivik's Facebook page and put his religion as "Christian" since obviously it's a lie.

Sane people would instead sit down and think, "Do I sound like that?"

I've noticed that jordan179 has been conspicuously silent on this. I can only assume that he's crouching in whatever basement he occupies, saying, "Lalalalala, only Muslims are terrorists! Only Muslims are terrorists! ONLY MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS!"

"Why do they keep bringing up that he's Christian?" is a question I'm seeing a lot. I dunno...because the news channels automatically assumed that the terrorist was Muslim?

soldiergrrrl made the astute observation that some are also trying to write off Breivik as a "lone nutcase" while Major Hassan of Ft. Hood infamy is referred to as a terrorist. Breivik killed more people, in two locations, one of which was a government office. But he's white so again, people are giving him a pass on the "T-word".

I have a pagan-oriented spin on this. I can't help but see this as a continuation of the tragic legacy of Olav Tryggvason, who tortured and murdered unknown numbers of his fellow Norwegians for failing to adhere to his Christian worldview. "St" Olav followed in his footsteps. As the anniversary of the battle of Stikklestad comes around on Friday, this is ironic and terrible food for thought.

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wombat_socho
Jul. 27th, 2011 01:28 pm (UTC)
O RLY? You must not have been around when the media tagged Timothy McVeigh as a "right-wing Christian nutjob" or when pretty much everyone in the pro-life movement condemned Eric Rudolph. Because they were catching all kinds of hell from the media for supposedly encouraging that sort of thing - just as the Counterjihad movement is catching hell for supposedly inspiring this maniac.
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wombat_socho
Jul. 27th, 2011 06:15 pm (UTC)
Nobody has redefined those words to be identical in my neck of the conservative woods, which includes Pam Geller, Robert Spencer and Rusty Shackleford. Noting that there sure seem to be a lot of Muslim terrorists causing problems != tagging all Muslims as terrorists. We're all perfectly aware that ETA, the IRA, and various Latin American drug gangs are out there using terror as a political weapon.

As for Tiller, well, if you insist on seeing "sly condoning" between the lines of condemnations, can't do nothing for you, man. I don't speak in codes or dog whistles.
kishiriadgr
Jul. 27th, 2011 08:45 pm (UTC)
Rusty Shackleford? Did you insert that to make sure we were paying attention? (not sarcasm; there may be some pundit I don't know about using that pseudonym.)

And I do remember "pro-life" groups that were supportive of Scott Roeder. Not the high-profile ones of course, but yes, some were.
wombat_socho
Jul. 27th, 2011 10:25 pm (UTC)
Rusty blogs at The Jawa Report, which is a less serious version of Spencer's Jihad Report. It's a big blogosphere, and if you haven't heard of it, it wouldn't surprise me.

You can find idiots in any group. It doesn't mean the group as a whole is a bunch of idiots.
wombat_socho
Jul. 27th, 2011 01:34 pm (UTC)
That's a pretty cheap shot at jordan179, and rather beneath you. Considering all the bad intel flooding in from all directions courtesy of the media, don't you think it's at least prudent to wait until the dust settles and things are at least slightly more clear?

Breivik's been written off as a lone wacko by the head of Norway's domestic intelligence service, Hassan, on the other hand, was in regular communication with the imam al-Awlaki. Not quite parallel cases.

It also seems strange to me that you consider the ETA and IRA as "Christian" terrorist organizations. There's nothing remotely Catholic about their motivations, which are purely nationalistic and (in the case of the IRA) more Marxist in their ideology than Christian.
kishiriadgr
Jul. 27th, 2011 06:19 pm (UTC)
There's been something going on behind the scenes with Jordan and me, so it's not a cheap shot. That's all I'm going to say, though.

Hassan still worked alone, and I'm willing to bet Breivik will turn out to have some interesting pen-pals, too.

Both Basque and IRA terrorists very much have Catholicism as part of their nationalistic motivation, particularly the Basque. I fell down a rabbit hole of that when I was reading about Marian devotion in Spain.

I seem to have hit a nerve with this. If the shoe is fitting you, wear it. It's not a comfortable thing to realize you are acting like the people you hate. I know; the worst rantings against Obama made me take a good, long, painful look at my expressions of anger against George W. Bush.



Edited at 2011-07-27 10:03 pm (UTC)
wombat_socho
Jul. 27th, 2011 10:22 pm (UTC)
Oh, okay, I guess; didn't realize you two were on the outs or even upset with each other.

There have already been attempts to tie Breivik to the EDL, yes.

I'll concede that the ETA may have some Catholic theology at the root of their war against the Spanish state and would appreciate you pointing me in the right direction to do research. Still skeptical about the IRA; ditto. (I am embarrassed somewhat that I know somewhat more about The Troubles and Irish history in general than I do about the Basques, considering I have some of those on my maternal grandfather's side of the family.)

Hit a nerve? No, I'm not taking this personally. I'm not one of these types who thinks Muslims need to be second-class citizens because some of their fundamentalists take the suras about jihad seriously. I do think we'd be idiots not to watch them a tad more carefully than we do, say, Lutherans. But I don't like guilt by association no matter who's got hold of the tar brush.
kishiriadgr
Jul. 27th, 2011 10:34 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah, I've been banned from his journal for, gad, I think a year now. Once in a while I go over there to see the freak show, but that's it.

I read about Catholicism and Basque nationalism back when I was researching my doctoral dissertation. Since it was modern-day theology, I didn't take any notes, I just remember reading about it. I think I have a book by an author who wrote about it, but it's not the theme of the book.

I still think it's interesting that few are willing to call Breivik a terrorist when clearly he is one.
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selenite
Jul. 28th, 2011 12:51 am (UTC)
Let's not be slapping the anti-pagan label on Breivik:
"I have studied Norse Mythology and have a lot of respect for the Odinist traditions. I consider myself to be a Christian, but Odinism is still and will always be an important part of my culture and identity. (p. 1360)"
http://bigjournalism.com/edulis/2011/07/27/msm-ignores-how-oslo-shooters-own-manifesto-completely-destroys-christian-conservative-label/

kishiriadgr
Jul. 28th, 2011 01:07 am (UTC)
I didn't slap the anti-pagan label on him per se. The Olavs didn't kill their fellow Norwegians out of any true Christian belief either. I'd read that sentence too; actually I was expecting him to have been a crackpot Odinist because there has been violence from them before (see Varg Vikyernes).
yamamanama
Aug. 2nd, 2011 01:37 am (UTC)
The punditocracy (did you know punditocracy is in the dictionary? Because I didn't.) is trying to blame Muslims for this somehow.
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