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Remastered "Star Trek"

If you have Netflix, they currently have the remastered first season of the original Trek as a "watch it now" option on their site.  So far I've watched the first two.  I haven't seen "Star Trek" in ages, and it's like seeing it for the first time.

Compelling stories, but my gosh it's sexist!  There a couple of women in trousers, but most are of course in those little miniskirts, which I know was Paramount's doing, not Roddenberry's.  Yeoman Rand is carrying meals to the men.  There's also a lot of "oh you know how women are" talk.  Oh well, it was 1966 and feminism was coming.

I had not realized though how absolutely beautiful Nichelle Nichols was, and probably still is even if she is in her 70s.  And Leonard Nimoy was gorgeous!

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helenkacan
Jun. 11th, 2009 02:59 am (UTC)
Oh, pls, don't get me started.
Oops! Too late.
And the inference that a smart, accomplished woman was an ugly one and therefore wouldn't/couldn't attract a man. Mind you, they couldn't show a really plain woman in those days, so they made No. 1 tall and imposing (also Vulcan cold & logical) as a contrast to the pretty, fluffy yeoman (the two choices Kirk had as a potential mate).
kishiriadgr
Jun. 11th, 2009 03:02 am (UTC)
Yeah, I definitely have to keep in mind that this was the product of its times.

I've only watched two, am working on the third (Netflix is loading it right now in the background) but I seem to recall some smart and attractive women--but of course it always turned out there was something *wrong* with them...

Edited at 2009-06-11 03:03 am (UTC)
helenkacan
Jun. 11th, 2009 03:11 am (UTC)
And, actually, despite Roddenberry's startling decisions to have a black woman (in the same decade as the race riots), a Russian character (same decade as the Bay of Pigs, continuing Cold War), a Japanese character (two decades after internment camps on American soil) were astounding.

What was less admirable was the ways in which racism was directed at Spock's character (hey, that was okay, because after all HE was an alien). Decades later, I'm still not sure whether it was meant to be a cynical editorial (yes, yes, petty human beings: you have escaped the chains of your ignoble past, only to treat the one among you from another planet with disrespect and outward defiance) on Roddenberry's part.
kishiriadgr
Jun. 11th, 2009 03:23 am (UTC)
cinchntouch has referred to Spock as the queerest character in television, not in the homosexual sense (Cinch is a gay Star Trek fan) but in terms of being "other" and the series "odd man out".
taxlady
Jun. 11th, 2009 05:06 am (UTC)
I always felt that it was a way of pointing out racism, not condoning it.
desert_vixen
Jun. 11th, 2009 05:29 pm (UTC)

Pike (I think you mean Pike, in The Cage?) never did say which of the two women he would have picked...

I don't know if you read much of the Trek novels, but DC Fontana did one based on that crew called Vulcan's Glory that was quite good.

DV
helenkacan
Jun. 11th, 2009 03:14 am (UTC)
And, speaking of Spock, let me drool in memory of the fact that Leonard Nimoy seemed to age the least until he hit - what - at least 60? Mmmmmm.
taxlady
Jun. 11th, 2009 05:08 am (UTC)
Don't forget that, in the pilot, the first officer was a woman.
kishiriadgr
Jun. 11th, 2009 10:01 am (UTC)
Yes, and Paramount/CBS made Roddenberry take her out and install Mr. Spock as first officer because they didn't want a woman in that position. It was too radical.
napoleonofnerds
Jun. 11th, 2009 01:00 pm (UTC)
Actually, they wanted him to ditch Spock too.
kishiriadgr
Jun. 11th, 2009 03:13 pm (UTC)
They did, because he looked like a devil to them.
marphilly
Jun. 11th, 2009 04:46 pm (UTC)
The other thing about that is that in test audiences, a lot of the women of the time were too intimidated by Number One.
stryck
Jun. 11th, 2009 11:16 am (UTC)
I always get distracted by Nimoy's bad posture. Drives me nuts when I watch the old series!
kishiriadgr
Jun. 11th, 2009 03:12 pm (UTC)
Aw crap, I hadn't noticed that and now I will from here on out.
napoleonofnerds
Jun. 11th, 2009 01:12 pm (UTC)
Nichelle Nichols is a beautiful woman.

I think that part of the problem with the feminism of Star Trek (and always take with a grain of salt everything gay men say about feminism) is that it was made in that odd intermediary period where having the woman be smart and strong was progressive. The skirt and Yeoman Rand weren't problems even in liberal circles yet - in fact, Kirk originally objects to having a female Yeoman, so even that was supposed to represent Kirk being a bit backward in what jobs he thought women should do.
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desert_vixen
Jun. 11th, 2009 05:27 pm (UTC)

Nichelle Nichols is still gorgeous. She looks like a queen (she was at D*Con 07).

I enjoyed the Number One character that Majel Barrett played, but she was a touch too progressive.

DV
avingail
Jun. 12th, 2009 12:10 am (UTC)
I'm doing the same thing with Netflix, and I have noticed the same . . . Nichelle is really beautiful. I like her hair glossed and styled a lot more than I like the wavy fro that they have her in later in the movies.
lucy_indisguise
Jun. 12th, 2009 12:34 am (UTC)
as you probably already realized, I have a bad habit of taking things at face value and I have the advantage of remembering what things were like in the late 60's. It was amazing to even see women in roles like helping to run a starship, and we all marveled at how hard they must have worked to overcome the sterotypes and get the positions they had. As for the uniforms, the guy's uniforms were pretty silly with those short pants too - lol
kishiriadgr
Jun. 12th, 2009 01:14 am (UTC)
Yeah, I was in kindergarten in the late 60s and by the time I was old enough to watch ST I was identifying with Kirk!
theletterelle
Jun. 12th, 2009 01:30 am (UTC)
In that vein, I've been reading some old Analogs (1981 or thereabouts) and I'm finding much the same sexism. Denigrating talk of "women's libbers," men addressing women by their first names while women address them by their titles, superfluous descriptions of women's attractiveness-- ugh. Welcome to the future.
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