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This is not what I fought for.


How do we fight back against this bullshit?

Thank you daddygod for bringing this to my attention. I will no longer be flying.


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Nov. 1st, 2010 06:32 pm (UTC)
Me neither...
Nov. 1st, 2010 06:38 pm (UTC)
Just wait until someone gets caught smuggling Semtex in their ass...

Think about the pre-flight screenings after that.
Nov. 1st, 2010 06:41 pm (UTC)
Someone already blogged about that. "What about female bombers carrying something in their vaginas?" he asked TSA, who then started looking uncomfortable.

Meh, I could just solve all this for myself by moving back to Canada.
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Nov. 1st, 2010 06:39 pm (UTC)
"oh, it's not REQUIRED. we can subject you to this other horribly invasive test instead"
if enough people don't fly on account of it, then maybe... TSA doesn't care, but the airlines certainly do, and they can throw their weight around.

if enough people write their Congresscritters (I will be), then maybe... TSA isn't their baby, but they can definitely make such screening illegal as a matter of law rather than policy.

if enough people write to the airlines, too, declaring they won't be flying anymore, then maybe... the airlines are hurting enough these days already without worrying about that.

problem is, if opinions are only made known in dribs and drabs, everybody comes to think of it as "okay". only when it appears as singular public outrage do politicians and businesses line up to try to correct the problem.
Nov. 1st, 2010 06:42 pm (UTC)
Is this kinda like how Jigsaw never killed anyone, he just forces you to kill yourself?

See icon.
Nov. 1st, 2010 06:49 pm (UTC)
the level of invasiveness, and the remarkable INEFFECTIVENESS of the methods chosen, continue to astound me

the back sctter x rays have at least marginal effectiveness behind them.... but no "body pat down" will detect the methods the terrorists have been seen to use lately, so why do it?
Nov. 1st, 2010 06:51 pm (UTC)
They wanna squeeze your boobies?
Nov. 1st, 2010 07:11 pm (UTC)
sadly this may be about all the reason.....
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Nov. 1st, 2010 07:25 pm (UTC)
The x-ray option doesn't seem too bad, though I don't fly often at all, so radiation could be an issue for some (pregnant women, for example, couldn't do it). Really, this just makes me want to take Greyhound or commute cross-country by car (even though it's a much bigger pain in the ass, really)
Nov. 1st, 2010 08:28 pm (UTC)
I would not call this security. It's simply knee-jerk reactions at their finest.

Real security isn't pat downs, taking your shoes off, X-ray machines and the other TSA-mandated BS that goes on now, it's threat anticipation and taking preventitve action. Security means that the chances of something going on are exponentially lowered, not taking action after the fact.

This is one place in which we really, really should learn from the Israelis (or the Germans).


My other concern with this new sanctioned sexual assault screening tactic is - yes, this may be a bit over the top - is how people who have sensory issues or PTSD might react to virtually being groped by strangers, irregardless of the context that this is in.

There is a lot that is Very, Very wrong with this.
Nov. 1st, 2010 08:32 pm (UTC)
The groping isn't mandatory because you can always go through the X-ray machine and be seen naked. Isn't that SO much more reasonable?
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Nov. 2nd, 2010 01:46 am (UTC)
Ye gods.
Nov. 2nd, 2010 01:47 am (UTC)
I'm baffled. Is it anything like Israeli security? I was searched by a woman guard, and she had quickly passed over all the important places before I noticed what she was doing. This was done in curtained off cubicle. She also did a good search of all my luggage. Men were searched by men. No one has ever successfully hijacked an El Al plane.

I found it totally inoffensive. Irradiating me is not inoffensive.
Nov. 2nd, 2010 02:07 am (UTC)
They brought in the frisking because they want to make it MORE unpleasant than going through the x-ray machine. Remember, Canadians have more respect for x-rays than Americans and know they can do harm. This is why Americans think nothing of mammograms annually even if there are no risk factors and dentists do x-rays every six months. They're convinced x-rays are safe. I fly a LOT and I neither wish to be irradiated or fondled.
Nov. 3rd, 2010 01:28 pm (UTC)
I got this last year, flying home from Connecticut. I opted for the look-at-me-naked x-ray -- the people seeing the image are screened off from seeing the person going through -- but it really made me uneasy. And yeah, like you, I just don't want to fly if it's going to be like that.
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