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That new convert smell

When I started here, I was put in the office of a sergeant who was out for the week. He had a crucifix on his bookshelf, a Divine Mercy print, and a Catholic parish calendar. There was also an anti-"gay agenda" book on his desk. I thought this was rather inappropriate for a government office but whatever.

He came in on Friday and by that afternoon I passed him talking to a captain downstairs about how the civil rights movement has led to gays flaunting their sexuality because "How would we know what they're doing in bed unless they talked about it?"

I bit my tongue, wanting to point out that the fact that he has photos of himself, his wife,and their baby in his office qualifies as "flaunting sexuality".

On Monday I passed him AGAIN as he was griping about gays. At this point my "repressed homosexual" alarm is starting to go off, because it's common experience that the louder a man gripes about gays, the sooner it is that they're found in a highway rest stop with someone's dick in their mouth.

Today as we were doing our PT run he passes me, talking to the same captain as before about how "we" are finding out that contraception is bad for women, physically and psychologically.

Then it hit me. That new-convert smell. It's not always a good smell, and it sure isn't here.

We reach the PT field and now he's talking about abortion and how lawmakers re-define "kill" and taking innocent lives. "No abortion talk before 0830!" announces the female attorney. He kept talking about what "thou shalt not kill" meant. Finally I said, "Did you know that in Leviticus, the fetus is viewed as just another part of the woman, not a life in itself?"

"No fetuses before 0830!" the attorney said again.

"You're a convert, aren't you?" I finally asked and yes, of course he is!

Later that morning I overheard her telling him that things like this could bring about EO complaints. I would tell him to his face that he's being offensive before I filed an EO complaint, and I still might tell him he's being rude and wrong.

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garpu
Apr. 15th, 2015 08:11 pm (UTC)
Is there any backlash for telling such a person to get bent? Equal rank, correct?
kishiriadgr
Apr. 16th, 2015 12:48 am (UTC)
I'd rather explain to him why this is not in any way appropriate conversation for the office.
garpu
Apr. 16th, 2015 12:56 am (UTC)
Well yeah, but I didn't know if such a conversation could happen, if there weren't equal/greater rank involved.
kishiriadgr
Apr. 16th, 2015 01:01 am (UTC)
We're both E-5s, so it's okay.
kwokj
Apr. 15th, 2015 10:12 pm (UTC)
"I bit my tongue, wanting to point out that the fact that he has photos of himself, his wife,and their baby in his office qualifies as "flaunting sexuality"."

I totally want to see what happens if you say this out loud to him *tents fingers, smiles and raises an eyebrow*

I also want to hear from him how contraception is bad for me *eyeroll*
kishiriadgr
Apr. 16th, 2015 12:49 am (UTC)
Pretty sure he'd just spout the usual stupid lines at you about how it's bad for marriage and the pill is abortifacient and probably causes brain cancer or something. Whatever Life News says.
helenkacan
Apr. 16th, 2015 01:50 am (UTC)
[Oh, I so miss my glaring eye icon. But I'll use the symbolic waterfall one, imagining the water rushing through one ear and out the other (his ears).]

Echoing kwokj, I'd love to comment that he and his wife mustn't be such good converts, considering there's ONLY one baby in the picture.

I agree with all of your points and send sympathy (and something virtual to lower your b.p.).
kishiriadgr
Apr. 16th, 2015 02:06 am (UTC)
Yes, but I don't think they've been married long. And spacing out kids with NFP is permitted. NFP is not the rhythm method, and it actually works if you're willing to give up sex when your wife wants it the most. But that's not a problem, right?
helenkacan
Apr. 16th, 2015 03:17 am (UTC)
Well, no problem as long as she's suitably ... obedient. ::shudders::
kwokj
Apr. 17th, 2015 08:31 pm (UTC)
I meant he should try explaining to it to me, while I make him feel very small with my condescending gaze.
zeonchar
Apr. 16th, 2015 01:18 am (UTC)
I would totally file an EO complaint against this asshat. You can tell him he's wrong but I doubt he'll listen. People like that only respect other men in positions of power who can chew their asses out. Seriously, he's creating a hostile work environment. What if one of his co-workers way gay and had to listen to that all day

Edited at 2015-04-16 01:18 am (UTC)
kishiriadgr
Apr. 16th, 2015 02:07 am (UTC)
That's exactly what I'm going to tell him. He doesn't know me, after all, and while I have mentioned a husband, what if said husband were a transman?
helenkacan
Apr. 16th, 2015 03:19 am (UTC)
OMG You're making me rub my hands with glee! BTW, what's the difference between Steve's height and yours?
kishiriadgr
Apr. 16th, 2015 04:46 am (UTC)
Maybe six inches?
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desert_vixen
Apr. 16th, 2015 02:41 am (UTC)

I get SO damn tired of the "flaunting their gay sexuality" argument. I have worked with any number of gay and lesbian soldiers and NOT a single one of them has ever a) told sexually explicit stories at work or b) gotten caught having sex somewhere they shouldn't (excluding the one pair of girls I caught while I was an AIT platoon sergeant making out on the PT field after curfew). I will say that I have known plenty of straight soldiers that did both A and B - more so B.

Yes, I would definitely have a "friendly" chat with New Convert about appropriate conversations at work (hint: sex, abortion, contraception and "teh gays are baaaad" are not included in this category)
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